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‘It’s beautiful to have experienced the journey’: 10 years of Out-Spoken

A look back at the first decade of Out-Spoken, one of London’s premiere poetry, spoken word and live music nights

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Originally posted Fri 13 May 2022

The journey from Camden’s Chalk Farm Road to the Southbank Centre isn’t a long one; half an hour on the 168, less than that on a bike. But for Out-Spoken, that same journey represents 10 years of evolution, effort and success.

A platform for live poetry and music, Out-Spoken began a decade ago, in the mind of poet Anthony Anaxagorou. Though he himself had come late to poetry, or maybe because he had, he was looking to find new ways to showcase London’s thriving poetry scene, one that left audiences looking for more, rather than looking at their watches.

It was March 2012 when Out-Spoken made the transition from concept to actual stage, and it hasn’t looked back. Steadily growing and evolving over the decade since, alongside the much cherished live poetry and music night, which took up residency here at the Southbank Centre in 2019, there now exists a publishing arm in the form of Out-Spoken Press, workshop programmes and masterclasses with some of the nation’s most loved poets, and an awards night to champion new voices.


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To this day Out-Spoken’s live nights remain a not-to-be-missed experience, where established artists, Poet Laureates and award-winners rub shoulders and share microphones with emerging talents. As Karim Kamar, one of Out-Spoken’s co-producers, deftly describes, ‘It’s all about allowing different styles of performance to exist within the same space. It’s about giving the same artistic respect to performance poetry as is given to traditional page poetry, and most importantly it’s about allowing the work and the art to be viewed, heard and appreciated in a great room with great sound.’

But first, let’s go back to the very beginning and London in its pre-Olympic state of early 2012. On most nights back then you’d have found Anaxagorou criss-crossing the capital, making his way to or from gigging at one of its plentiful open mic nights. But as he himself explains, the democracies of such nights meant that attending and performing at them often became feats of endurance. ‘As anyone will tell you, sometimes these things can get quite difficult to sit through, especially if you have 25 open mic performers on before your set at 10.30pm. By that time the audience is either knackered or they’ve gone home. So I began to think about ways to stop that from happening.’

Artists and audiences deserved something on top of that, something more tailored. What Anaxagorou hit on, was the idea for a poetry night that didn’t need an open mic aspect to secure an audience; an undisrupted showcase of the best in contemporary British poetry; top performers, writers and musicians, appreciated by an audience that was given room to be attentive from start to finish. And so began Out-Spoken

‘The idea for Out-Spoken was nothing more than a night which brings together a variation of styles. So page, performance, dramatic monologue, and live music can coexist and be equally appreciated by an attentive audience.’

Anthony Anaxagorou

Flyer for the first Out-Spoken poetry night featuring Anthony Anaxagorou, Raymond Atrobus and more

The first Out-Spoken night took place at Proud Galleries in Camden, with a bill largely drawn from the circle of poets and performers Anaxagorou was moving in at the time. Music came courtesy of the rapper Brotherman and Musa Okwonga’s old band The King’s Will, whilst poetry was performed by Anaxagorou as well as Raymond Antrobus, Nina Purpose and Ruby Kid, with whom Anaxagorou ran the night with until 2015.

At its conception Anaxagorou had envisioned Out-Spoken as a bimonthly showcase, but its first night proved such a sell-out success that it quickly became a monthly thing. And as its reputation grew within London’s expanding poetry and spoken word scene and beyond so did the need for greater space. ‘It was nuts to see how religiously people turned up every month, and soon the same people were bringing more friends and family along’. In September 2012 the night moved to the basement of The Star of Kings pub in Kings Cross, before relocating to The Forge in 2014. When the Camden venue closed in 2017, Out-Spoken undertook something of a nomadic existence, popping up at venues including Union Chapel and The 100 Club, before taking up its current Southbank Centre residency in 2019.

When anything independent becomes successful, maintaining the ethos that first led to its creation can be difficult but – perhaps because it started with such aspirational beliefs – Out-Spoken’s growth has never come at the expense of its raison d’etre. As Anaxagorou confirms, ‘For poetry, the mission has been pretty consistent throughout the years. We’ve always aspired to bridge the gap between stage and page, between what gets labelled performance poetry and perhaps what’s considered more literary. The show concerns itself with highlighting all the ways poems can exist, the world’s they’re born out of and what poets can do with the English language’.

‘Out-Spoken really is about wanting to bring the most exciting and dynamic poetry and music to a regular monthly audience. For poets to come and find a space where 300 people will leave their homes to hear them read, then queue to buy books says something about the much needed value we put on an art form that’s made to feel peripheral or in contention. To see the night become what it is now; what it means to poets and audiences feels (to me at least) like all the years of planning, thinking and working on ways to grow the show are finally paying off – it’s beautiful to have experienced that journey.’

‘To see the night become what it is now; what it means to poets and audiences feels like all the years of planning, thinking and working on ways to grow the show are finally paying off – it’s beautiful to have experienced that journey’

Anthony Anaxagorou

OK, let’s be frank. It’s easy to hear the curator of an event tell you how great it is, and how it still does what it set out to do. So allow me if you will, a short personal interjection to give weight to those words. I first experienced Out-Spoken in 2013 as an initially sceptical attendee. My then girlfriend was a big fan, and so whilst I went willingly for that reason, at the same time I just didn’t think it would be for the likes of me; a working class kid raised in the Doncaster coalfields. I try not to have preconceptions in life, but I trod down those stairs in The Star of Kings fully expecting to be met by smug people reading at me, or even over me, in that spoken word voice – you know the voice.

I could not have been more wrong. Fast forward an hour and I’m up on my feet, having been shown beyond no shadow of a doubt, by Anaxagorou, and by Polarbear, that this couldn’t be more for the likes of me. I was a fan before that first night had reached its joyous conclusion. In the years since I’ve introduced others to Out-Spoken, including people for whom English isn’t their first language, and every one of them has felt that Out-Spoken is exactly for them too. It’s a rare thing, to be able to create a night where everyone in attendance, regardless of their background, can feel like it’s been curated specifically for them, and Out-Spoken does that. It never misses; even managing to capture and present tastes which you hadn’t yet realised you had.

So, how exactly do you go about curating such an appealing, inclusive and broad line-up for a monthly spoken word and live music night? ‘It’s actually a very democratic and open process,’ explains Anaxagorou, ‘[Compere] Joelle Taylor and I usually start by putting several names forward of poets whose work we like then others add to the list. We try to work around themes, styles, voice and subject. We take into account where a writer might be in their career and shape the nights around those factors. Joelle, [producer] Tom MacAndrew and myself are very much entrenched in all aspects of poetry. For us a key feature of the night is how to pair newer writers with perhaps more high-profile poets and have the work feel congealed and complementary. For music Karim is usually in constant conversation with musicians and bands. We very much trust his judgement and taste so leave him to curate the months as he sees fit.’

Karim Kamar is Out-Spoken’s lead music programmer, and all round social media guru. A talented solo pianist in his own right, Kamar has performed at almost every major music venue in London, and has been involved in Out-Spoken since its first birthday special event in 2013. ‘I came to record footage for Anthony. Then before I knew it I was doing a little piano slot each month for the show until I became a part of the furniture.’

Though often given a lower billing in the acclaim Out-Spoken receives, music is every bit as integral to how each show works as the poetry performed. It literally runs through each show from start to finish courtesy of resident DJ Sam ‘Junior’ Bromfield who’s been with Out-Spoken since 2015. Broomfield’s role shouldn’t be underestimated; after all this is the man tasked with warming up everyone and anyone who steps inside the performance space. Armed with reggae, soul and R&B classics, it’s a challenge he more than meets head on both pre show, and throughout the interval. ‘People love his vibe and I love his clothes,’ enthuses Anaxagorou.

And when it comes to the live music element, much like Out-Spoken’s poetry curation, the musicians Kamar chooses to champion achieve that remarkable feat of covering a broad spectrum whilst always appealing to an audience of mixed tastes. Kamar however remains somewhat understated when it comes to his curation process. ‘It’s nothing different to any other organisation. I go out to live shows or see other interesting acts who have shared bills with me on nights I’ve been booked to perform at. I keep a keen ear to new UK releases on YouTube and Spotify, and just generally keep my finger on the pulse on live acts and the music scene.’

So is there anyone Kamar hasn’t yet managed to add onto an Out-Spoken line-up that he’d love to secure? ‘I would love to get Ryuichi Sakamoto to play a set,’ says Kamar, adding, ‘hopefully we’ll grow big enough to get him before he retires.’ Given their rise in their first ten years, it’s certainly not inconceivable to think that Out-Spoken will reach a suitably Sakamoto level in the next ten.

Artist Karim Kamar wears a white long-sleeve shirt and black trousers and he sits on a white staircase

But did Anaxagorou ever envisage that it would still be thriving after a decade? ‘I really didn’t. I was only ever thinking firstly about how we could sustain the night for another year, and secondly how to grow and incorporate elements we felt were important to the poetry landscape. I’ve always wanted an outfit that offered people that chance to engage and benefit from all aspects of poetry – from the learning and development of craft, which the masterclass covers, to the publishing and performing which the live night and Out-Spoken Press offer. For me, it’s a community project and always has been, run by artists and practitioners who’ve been working in the sector for years and who remain invested in its future.’

Poet Joelle Taylor stands on stage in the Southbank Centre's Purcell Room

This seems as apt a cue as any to bring in the remarkable Joelle Taylor, co-curator and compere of Out-Spoken for more than half its life-span. Rightly celebrated as the 2022 winner of the TS Eliot Prize for Poetry for her collection C+NTO & Othered Poems, Taylor has been invested in UK poetry for more than twenty years, from founding SLAMbassadors to taking poetry into schools and prisons across the country. As compere Taylor is the first voice anyone hears, it’s arguably up to Taylor to set the tone for each Out-Spoken, to pick up the audience from their chat and take them with her. Most of us would consider this a daunting, challenging prospect, but Taylor is much more laid back about it.

‘Out-Spoken’s house style is to encourage the audience to be themselves, to remember their hands, to sink into the poetry and music as much as sail across it. As such, they have never needed any extra encouragement. A small smile is as important as a stampede of hands.’ As it happens, Taylor and a great stampede of hands combine for my own favourite Out-Spoken moment. In the autumn of 2021, not long after C+NTO & Othered Poems was shortlisted for the TS Eliot Prize, Taylor took centre stage to read from her collection. During Taylor’s recital you could’ve heard a pin drop in the Queen Elizabeth Hall, a true testimony of how engaging it was given we were actually nextdoor in the Purcell Room at the time. And the ovation that greeted Taylor’s final line was as long as it was heartfelt (and it was long) – full of admiration for talent as it was affection and pride in one of the Out-Spoken family having deserved success.

But, what is Taylor’s personal highlight from her time with Out-Spoken? Typical of the humble nature of all connected with the event it is not this, but instead ‘Watching Ilya Kaminsky read from Deaf Republic is a stand out moment, a deeply moving, invigorating performance. It was my birthday as well, and Anthony and Karim surprised me with a birthday cake on stage’ I ask the same question of Kamar and get an even more deadpan response; ‘I think as a producer now, my favourite moment is when all the acts turn up to soundcheck on time, the event is sold out, everyone sticks to their allotted set time and the show sails smoothly. Rock and Roll eh?’

How about Anaxagorou? ‘There are too many to mention. I remember the way the late rapper Ty got the entire Forge in Camden up and dancing. Ilya Kaminsky incanting his beautiful poems while the text appeared behind him on a projector. The inward stoicism of Simon Armitage’s readings. The humour, wit and fury of Salena Godden. Hearing burgeoning poets who only recently came onto the scene confess in the green room ‘this is my first ever proper reading and I’m so nervous I might die.’ The conversations we have backstage, the drinks we share after the shows, watching poets rehearse their lines, trying to shake off the nerves, reading over their notes and poems – it’s a whole process, a method, one I’m lucky enough to witness’.

So, having made it to the decade mark, having added a publishing wing, an awards night and poetry masterclasses to the Out-Spoken name, where does it go from here? ‘It’s the hardest question to answer,’ says Anaxagorou frankly, ‘because we often say it’s like we’re at the summit with it now. It can either go terribly wrong and we land flat on our arses and go back to where we started, or we sustain the platform and keep bringing the acts we do in the way we do it. I guess that’s what people come to experience and now we’ve hit the ten-year mark, I’m hoping we’ll be around for another ten’.

‘Watching poets rehearse their lines, trying to shake off the nerves, reading over their notes and poems – it’s a whole process, a method, one I’m lucky enough to witness’

Anthony Anaxagorou

Glen Wilson, a White man in his early 40s with dark hair and stubble, standing in a mountainous landscape

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Glen Wilson

Glen Wilson is Senior Digital Editor at the Southbank Centre. A writer and editor on the arts since 2017, he is the author of WCLDN.

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